Behind The Numbers

Posted by Neville on June 23, 2013 under Comments, Resources, Reviews, Traffic, Training | Comments are off for this article

Working Out The Stats

More than a month of tracking stats have now been collected. That is just a small fraction of time that some of the well established ranking systems have been around.

So what makes the dotrim rankings different? And why should you take any notice of them?

First: The data relies solely on tracking. There are no polls or voting where the numbers can be manipulated by devotees of a particular safelist or mailer.

Second: The tracking information collected is real. It is collected from results of mailing out to members of safelists.

Third: A range of safelists and mailers are sampled in the stats gathered. It is not a complete list of all mailers. Initially those in the downline builder at the 10K Challenge were selected, and then others added to the list.

Are The Results Different From Other Rankings?

When compared with other ranked lists you will see some differences.

What appears at the top of one ranked list may not show up on another. There are some safelist owners, quite appropriately, advertising and promoting that their particular bay has been top of a list for many weeks, but it does not get a look in at the dotrim rankings.

The reasons for that could be many, with probably the main factors being the purpose of the rankings and the methods used to calculate them.

If you look back at a previous post you will see that the dotrim Rankings focus on 2 elements.

Results: The recorded conversions on emails sent. Now that the rankings are maturing, if a mailer does not produce results, it will not appear on the Rankings. Only those safelists that get results are shown.

Effort: How many credit emails have to be opened to get visitors (traffic). Where the results are the same the rankings then list the mailers in order of those giving the best return for effort.

Why Only 8 On the List?

At this stage more than 40 different safelists are used each week to gather the data for the rankings. From those the top 8 are shown in the Rankings.

Each week it seems that there is little change in the mailers on the list. There is usually just a little shuffling that goes on, with the same ones moving around in order.

Some thought is being given to producing a supplementary ranked list that would include some that just miss the cut, or that appear to be gathering steam and heading in the right direction. That way readers of this site will be able to see, and gather some information about these safelists and use that for decision making about signing up or upgrading.

If you are finding these posts useful, please drop a comment or two, perhaps with suggestions for where to take this site.

Visit the dotrim Safelist Rankings.

Commenting On Comments

Posted by Neville on September 9, 2011 under Blogging, Comments | 7 Comments to Read

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This blog is currently being featured in a TeamPromote advertising campaign.

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TeamPromote is now in version 1.1 and has some new features added which will benefit Advertisers (me, in this case) and Promoters (possibly you if you came here from that campaign).

One of the added features is the ability for Promoters to add a comment to each of the sites that an Advertiser nominates. In the current campaign I have set that to allow for a comment from each promoter to this blog. They can choose which post to add their comment to.

When a relevant comment is posted here in this blog I can then approve it in the TeamPromote campaign, and the Promoter will be awarded some Effort Points. There are other ways to build Effort Points which are used to determine the rewards given to each Promoter at the end of the campaign. You will have to visit TeamPromote to discover what they are.

Let me emphasise that the comment must be submitted here, to one of the posts in this blog, before it will be approved and effort points added in the campaign. If the comment is irrelevant or is not submitted for approval to this site, it will be declined, and no effort points awarded.

You are invited to add comments to this post, especially if you came here from the TeamPromote campaign. But remember to read the post, or visit others in the blog, because that’s what I was aiming for by encouraging you to add comments. Irrelevant and meaningless comments will not be approved.


Social Media And Serial Post Pests

Posted by Neville on June 6, 2011 under Comments, Networks | 4 Comments to Read

What Are They Doing?

BrandingI’m sure that they think that they are branding themselves, but I just have to ask, is it the best way to do that?

I guess you might have seen them. You look at the News Feed or the Wall, and you can’t miss them. They comment on just about everything. They send links to just about everything. Their profile picture is splashed on the page in several places.

But are they really contributing anything of value?

Here’s a little edited example, with commentary.

The first comment after the article is from one of the moderators of site. Labelled Mod in this conversation.

Mod: A wonderful article for the newbies! You not only let them know what to do but why to do it. I hope they take a moment to learn from your wisdom [Name of Author]!

Followed up immediately  (well actually 8 minutes later) by another member, labelled Fol in this conversation.

Fol: I agree with [Mod]. I have nothing to add. I will top and share this one in my networks

So, if there is nothing to add… Why add a comment. Perhaps just to say that other networks are going get a blast.

Then 6 hours later:

Mod: [Author’s article title]  is also featured in [Social Network] eZine’s current issue.

That issue is published by Mod, and if I stretch the point a little it could seem like self-promotion in another member’s article, which is frowned on by the site.

Then 40 mins later:

Fol: Good idea. The article certainly deserves a spot.

Now what did that comment add to the discussion? Apart from giving Mod a little pat on the back, and pick a few brownie points from Mod.

When you consider that sort of tag-team commenting is happening quite frequently at that site it tells me that the people doing it are not really interested in real networking, but in boosting their own brand. And they are doing that while appearing to be making a contribution.

However a close look at the content of many of the comments would show that there is not much of those contributions that add value to the articles. 

What do you think? Am I being too picky? In the case of commenting in the Social Media is it true that Less is More, if you make less comments, but they are considered and thoughtful comments?

And what brand is the Serial Post Pest establishing?

Should Have Taken My Own Advice

Posted by Neville on April 15, 2011 under Blogging, Comments, Reviews | Read the First Comment

Watch Out For Certain KeyWords!

Way back in the early days of this blog I warned about some keywords that Internet Marketers use to get you interested in their



Well I fell for one of those a couple of days ago, so now I’ll find out just how the ClickBank 60 day Money Back works.

There it was, standing out clear and easy to see: Autopilot. But I joined anyway!

I should also have taken more note of the pitch. There was a lot of claiming what the program was NOT.

  • It wasn’t an incomplete program.
  • It wasn’t a “Snake-oil” sales pitch.
  • It wasn’t a lot of things.

Previous experiences tell me that a program that sells itself by telling what it is not, is probably going to be very much like what it say it isn’t. Now that’s confusing. But I fell for it anyway.

So what sucked me in? The lure of making money from niche sites. I’m sure it can be done, but in this case the methods just do not sit comfortably with me.

The process in a nutshell was to research keywords to discover a niche in which to publish a site, monetized by adsense and Amazon products. Each site promised to make a small amount each day, and so you develop 50 or more sites, using the tools provided. Then with a little maintenance ( 2 hours a month?) the theory is that the system runs itself, and the money rolls in.

Once a niche is identified, the tools will help you select a domain name, set up a site and then get the site up in Google Search rankings. ie  in the first 5 sites on page 1.

The method for doing this is what I felt most uncomfortable with.

  • When the site is ready, you use the tools to find already published articles.
  • Choose one of these to add to a page. Edit it so  that is 40%-50% different, and claim it as your own.
  • Do that so you fool the Google algorithm into not treating it as duplicate copy.
  • There was no consideration as to whether there were any rights for you do that.
  • Add the monetization components.
  • Add links to the edited article and publish.
  • Build backlinks to the site.
  • Using the keyword the tools find comments based on that key word.
  • You select one and add a link to a product.
  • The tools then finds lots of blogs with that keyword and sends the comment to these blogs.

That last bit was the killer for me! Oh how I hate to deal with spam comments! And that’s just what these comments would be.

As soon as I got to that part of the training that’s where I  decided to pull the pin.

But not all is lost.

There were some useful tips in the SEO training at the beginning of the process, so now I’ve got a couple of tips to help with SEO at dotrim and at my other sites.

The comluv Plugin Has Been Installed

Posted by Neville on January 25, 2011 under Blogging, Comments, How To | 5 Comments to Read

How To Use comluv on this Blog

Just 24 hours ago I installed the comluv plugin to this blog, and in this post I will show what that looks like and how to make use of it when making a comment.

To be able to use the plugin on this blog to link back to yours, you will also have to have it installed on your WordPress blog.

Comment LuvIn the example shown here there is a comment that has been added to the blog and at the end of the comment you can see a link to a recent post made by the commenter on their blog. Yes, I know, I made the comment, and the comment points to this blog! But I just wanted an example to use.

The next two screenshots will show how to make sure that you will set up a back link when you make a comment. Of course you need to have comluv installed on the blog that you are trying to send the back link to.

This first screenshot shows that comluv has not yet been activated for this comment. Note that the Check Box is not ticked, and that the CommentLuv icon is showing on the right hand side.

Comment Plugin

To be able to set up the Back Link you will have to click the Check Box (add a tick to it) and then a recent post from your site will show, as indicated in the next screenshot. If you have several posts to choose from you can select one from those displayed when you click on the down arrow on the right hand side.


That’s it. Submit your comment and when it is approved, a back link to your blog has been established.

Add a comment below to tell what you like about the plugin. And of course set up a back link to your site!

Comments and Back Links: An Introduction

Posted by Neville on under Comments | 2 Comments to Read

Using Comments and Back Links.

comluv pluginIf you look at the expert bloggers and their blogs you will see that comments are regularly added to their posts. Have you ever wondered why that is so?

One reason could be that new bloggers are encouraged to comment, and to choose high ranking blogs as they have the greatest number of readers and from there you may gather some readers to their blog.

How does that work?

When you leave a comment, you usually have the option to supply a link Read more of this article »

CopyCat Blogging

Posted by Neville on January 16, 2011 under Blogging, Comments | 4 Comments to Read

Looking for ideas to make your blog zing?

Do you have a few favourite blogs that you visit regularly?RSS feed

What brings you back to them? What makes that blog stand out from all of the others you might have visited and never go back to them?

Answer these questions and you will have some great starting points for your own blog.

Copy what you like about these blogs. No, I don’t mean copy their content. Make the content of your blog your own, or specifically written for your blog by a guest writer.

Copy their style. Copy the appearance, with your own modifications. How many columns? What is in the sidebar? How long are the posts? How often are posts added?

Yes, lots more questions. Ask them over and over. And lots more.

Don’t worry about being a copycat.

TwitterWhat is a good way to keep up with your favourite blogs? Find the RSS feed and add the feed to your favourite RSS feed reader. That puts them all in the one spot for easy access.

There may be other ways on a blog to keep up to date with recent posts, such as Facebook and Twitter. Use them to be a successful copycat.

Share your favorite blog by adding something about it as a comment.

The Dangers In Using An Online Translator

Posted by Neville on November 5, 2010 under Blogging, Comments | Read the First Comment

online translatorDo You Use An Online Translator?

One of the greatest bugbears for a blog owner is dealing with spam comments.


Here is one that that I just had to add, simply because it is an ideal example of what can go wrong when using an online translator to convert from one language to another.


Someone, most likely using an auotobot to post comments, with their first language not being English tried to add the following comment to a post in this blog.

Thanks a ton to get a especially clear and valuable publish. I’m undeniably a violator of lots of these procedures. I typically unearth by myself conflicted when writing a weblog put up because I see myself producing greater than people today want to study, but I believe that I have got to do the topic matter proper rights by thoroughly protecting it. I think that by subsequent a few of these rules I finish up slicing out very important facets towards the dialogue. I guess you could have to come across a balance.


This looks to me like a prime example of Manglish (Mangled English), and I defy anyone to be able toTranslator convert it back to meaningful English.


It is full of grammatical and syntax problems, as well as being very difficult to understand what is the point of the comment.


This comment has been sent to the trash can, just like other similar comments, unrelated to the post where the comment has been made.

Real people, using their brain are invited to comment on posts in this blog, but auto-comments like this one are given the boot.

If you think you can interpret the comment I have highlighted, by all means do that by way of a comment.